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    Re: InfinityHub chat thread

    Post by Japorized on Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:32 pm

    I was a little annoyed there, yeah. I never really liked Singapore anyways. Don't really like the environment there, people-wise that is. They're too engrossed with their own lives, and there's way too much unnecessary social pressure. In the global sense, they are better than Malaysia, but I would rather stay in my own country than go to theirs.

    And I'm putting less work onto the research now, cause I have to prepare for my departure, and I have to do everything by myself too, so I can't fully dedicate my time to the research anymore. But I've finished the hardest part. What's left is just to sum up the raw data, which isn't too hard but I don't have the time to help anymore. It should be done soon, hopefully.

    And yeah I was absent from here for a while I know. But I've got quite some things done.
    - Visa process is done and am now just waiting for the return of my passport
    - Trying to finalize on my flight now
    - Got a room ready for myself already ($350 a month yay!), just need to sign a tenancy agreement
    - Gotten most winter stuff ready save boots and mufflers (hard to find em in my country)
    - Maintaining some of my ready stuff (laptop has a cable loose and my phone has some hardware problem, already sent the phone but my laptop may be a bit tricky)

    Really rushed my things there quite a bit, and I've been running around a lot cause of that. But at least things are coming into place now, I hope. Keeping my fingers crossed that things don't go too wrong.

    Vic, what you took on is the role of the manager (read: leader), at least that's what I see in one. The manager needs to know everything at the different levels and fields of the team. It's not an easy job, and yes, info does get loss along the way. That's why meetings are held to make sure that everyone's aware and reminded of what they need to do and the direction of where everyone's heading to. And well, it is a bit of a challenge to actually slow down and work together with other people when you're so used to going full speed ahead. It's good in the sense that those who are not familiar can learn after all.

    And I just saw the winning of the opposition, in a landslide no less. Congrats Vic! And this is great in the sense that at least there's the military supporting the change, cause that means that the old government can't do much like using military force against the opposition. Sadly that's not the case here but I hope this changes soon for us too.

    Once again, congrats! Here's to hoping for a brighter future for Venezuela!

    And thanks Bran. Hopefully things would go okay and that I can go there around Christmas (flights are somehow cheaper on that day).


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    Post by brandon_g on Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:26 pm

    Yes hopefully you will able to go on Christmas. Then you can begin studying abroad Wink.

    P.s If you can find time to visit Cool, feel free to come by anytime :D.


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    Post by Japorized on Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:00 pm

    I do hope. It's hella expensive flying. But I got a pretty good price so that's great. Am flying on the 23rd.

    Which part of the States are you in Bran?


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    Post by brandon_g on Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:33 pm

    Eastern USA, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Delaware area. :D


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    Post by Japorized on Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:45 pm

    Wait, isn't that like a couple of different places? I know NY isn't too far from Pennsylvania but it's still two different places. Or am I wrong on that? Whew


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    Post by brandon_g on Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:31 pm

    Yes they are each different states, however, they are all right next to each other Tongue out. I live in NJ (New Jersey) which is right below New York, right above Delaware and to the right of Pennsylvania Smile.


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    Post by VicmxD on Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:34 pm

    So here I'm, alive, waiting for tomorrow, for Star Wars!!!!!! I'm going with my cousin as we pre ordered the tickets XP, they ran out pretty fast. So we are all on some peaceful days then, XP it's quite comfy and quiet, how is the work and the book brandon, and how is the research and the shopping for going abroad japo?!
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    Post by brandon_g on Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:25 pm

    Unfortunately I have not done anymore work on the book yet because I have been focusing on getting my online radio station back up and running. I plan to resume writing it again real soon. :D


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    Re: InfinityHub chat thread

    Post by Japorized on Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:28 pm

    I'm almost ready to fly now.
    - My Visa's in good hands now which I can get some time real soon
    - My flight ticket has been bought. I'm flying on the 23rd (2am, GMT +8)!
    - Room waiting for me
    - Winter wear set (boots and mufflers obtained), almost doing final packing
    - Got my phone back, now just to wait till I get there to fix my laptop

    Now I just have to double check if stuff I bring are allowed to be brought onto the plane and into Canada (their border website doesn't really have a lot of restricted stuff listed down, and it's too technical). It's not as easy for me to know if what I bring is allowed cause I'm bringing some herbs and spices with me, which I know that herbs should be declared but I don't know about spices. I'll just declare everything though.

    And Bran, I'll PM you if I'm visiting those few places Smile Even though I can't be sure when that will be.


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    Post by brandon_g on Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:30 pm

    Thats great Japo! Glad to hear your finally going to be going. Let us know how Canada is and you will do great. :D

    Spices should be alright, be sure to be bring pictures and stuff from home as well with you to remember home by. Oh yeah and bring a couple pairs of gloves, a hat or two and atleast 1 heavy jacket. It can get cold in Canada Wink.


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    Post by VicmxD on Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:24 am

    Well, everything will be done when it's time XP.

    I really don't know about plane regulations, the last flight I took was 3 years ago XD and the first one I took as a conscious man (since I took some when I was a baby, but I don't remember those!), who knows when I will take another. So how are in the eve of your trip japo?! all ready and going smoothly? XP, or at least tell us how it went.

    By the way, today I had a funny dream while I was having a nap, casually I encounter you that you came for a visit and we spoke a little, but you did not understand some things I said because some times I spoke in italian while trying to tell everything in english XD, what a dream, I don't know how I didn't mix the spanish or even thought in spanish while that episode was taking place.

    In the meantime I have been constant in my reading, but not in my writing, since i haven't stayed too much time in my home (I travel to my grandparents house too often), and my habits wreck when I travel to other places and stay there, but it's better to say that I have different habits regarding the place I'm in, but to maintain or create new ones I need to stay on a place for a good amount of time.

    Edit: I'm going to the beach for a week, good luck in your travel japo! see you soon guys!

    2° Edit: I'm back guys, I hope japo had a good travel and is faring well in Canada; by the way, I couldn't connect to the site yesterday, I believe it was a problem in forunmotion then as it's working today.
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    Re: InfinityHub chat thread

    Post by Japorized on Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:35 pm

    Hey guys! I can finally come back here!

    It took me 24 hours to get here, and I safely landed here on the 23rd, at about 2pm, in Toronto. Travelled to my rent after that and just settled down there for a little. Couldn't get to charge my laptop so I used it very sparsely, until today when I finally got to get an adapter. I was on my phone, but the phone version of the site won't let me log in for some reason, so I couldn't write anything here.

    I've been doing okay so far. Took me quite some time to get over the jet lag though, but it was a long flight, and this place is 13 hours behind my home country, so yeah. I am pretty ready for the winter, but it's gotten really cold recently, that I just wanna stay home and in my bed. Kinda demotivated to head out unless if I have to get groceries and essentials.

    It's my first time experiencing snow and winters, so I'm just reading all I can about it to get to know what I should be aware of. Had only slipped and fell once (and it's today) cause I accidentally walked on ice (not snow, but ice). Got a small cut on the palm so nothing too serious.

    Classes start today too, so I'm pretty anxious. Can't wait to finally be a student again.

    VicxmD wrote:By the way, today I had a funny dream while I was having a nap, casually I encounter you that you came for a visit and we spoke a little, but you did not understand some things I said because some times I spoke in italian while trying to tell everything in english XD, what a dream, I don't know how I didn't mix the spanish or even thought in spanish while that episode was taking place.

    How could you even tell my voice though? xD

    @VicmxD wrote:I couldn't connect to the site yesterday, I believe it was a problem in forunmotion then as it's working today.

    Hmm... No mentions on the support site though. Maybe it was a minor one.


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    Re: InfinityHub chat thread

    Post by VicmxD on Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:05 pm

    Good to see you again japo! it's been a while, merry Christmas (i don't know if you celebrate it, but well, there it is) and happy occidental new year! (I remember you celebrated somewhere on vacations the Chinese new year, but still have a great 2016).

    Yep living a winter the first time isn't easy, waking up in the freezing cold while you are expecting to rise in the warmth of the tropical sun, and I won't begin with how difficult is going to the bathroom! Good luck with your classes, have a good quiet time for now XP, you will be having plenty of that in the winter, unless you go exploring the perimeter-surroundings, or you make some friends and if they want to show you around and if you accept, then there will be less quiet time.

    When I went to spain sometimes I didn't wanted to go out, even if my family criticized me I was happy playing with my laptop XP (I went out a lot too and enjoyed it), I won the game soul reaver 2, I was playing lots of classics, I was really happy doing that and in a new ambient, really refreshing, the excitement, the story, the freezing cold on your neck (and whole body), besides that there where lots of pleasurable things for the senses, the streets, the architecture, the smells, the food, the sounds, everything was like a sweet for my senses, specially the smells, you get a whole feeling that marks the memory it's amazing; from Italy I enjoyed more the sights, it was more quiet but from Spain in Barcelona the smells and the cold (quite dry I believe), were the more remarkable and vitalizing, I hope you feel something like that.

    I saw the video you made for the English class, the one where you wanted to change the values of the people by giving gift for no special reason to people trying to encourage them to do the same for others, but I don't know if that was the voice my unconscious reproduced XD, it just fill the dream with something that fits my expectations and maybe it goes imbued with a meaning.

    On another note, I had really vivid dreams today, it was amazing, it has been a really long time since I had a fully conscious dream in HD, because I have dreams where I'm conscious but some times they aren't as detailed, I don't know if my imagination has lacking of images or for the degradation of my sight by the years, and because of it it has a defective graphic card XP, sometimes the problem with those dreams is that you get too conscious or excited that you wake up so you have to chill and let the unconscious pull you into its schemes, so I couldn't fully do some things I wanted, and it was amazing how I read stuff and when I looked back it changed, I quite remember to have read a clever thing, and when I dove in the water (there was a beach and a personal pool =P) I could feel the cold O_O, not like physical cold, but the sensation it mentally leaves, like in the head more than in the body.

    Well Have both of you a great 2016, happy new year, I'm back at my house after celebrating with my grandparents and uncles, I have been reading Sophie's world (I will read later the history of western philosophy by Bertrand Russell) and Quiet from Susan Cain, and both have been really revealing, even if I did knew some of the people and theories before it's really illuminating to read them in an harmonic sequence, and in a coherent theory pulling all of them together, because of it I have been reflecting on lots of things over all these days, somewhere later I will have to write to develop them more XP, I have specially one idea that I would like to corroborate to be true, valid or if it has been thought (regarding physics, I'm sure something has been thought because I have read of it, but I don't know if it's well known or if it's proposed like I thought of it), well I will see, see you soon guys.
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    Post by brandon_g on Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:37 pm

    That is good to hear Japo! Be careful around that snow and ice, especially the black ice (non visible ice on roads and side walks), bundle up and stay warm. I hope enjoy Canada and your new classes Japo.

    There actually was a problem one day on Forumotion's end recently, the servers became 'flooded' recently in forums being un available to some users but not all (it was weird as it didn't effect everyone or every site). The issues were resolved the next day though. There has been any other issues since for now Wink.

    You can find out more info: http://help.forumotion.com/t145061-only-topic-forums-are-down-servimg-images-error-messages-while-posting .

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    Post by Japorized on Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:37 am

    Merry-very-late Christmas and Happy New Year. The Chinese New Year (or Lunar New Year) isn't on the first day of every year. We follow the lunar calendar for that. I don't really keep track of it though. And so for the Chinese who uses both calendars, we usually end up with two birthdays. Tongue out And I usually celebrate my Chinese New Years at home. There are people who choose to travel at that time now but not for me. It's still kinda unacceptable for me, travelling on a festive session when you're actually meant to go back home and be together with the rest of your family, unless if you have a very solid reason that you can't make it.

    Here's to a great 2016 though!

    Kinda got used to the cold now. I can now breathe the cold air for around 10 minutes without feeling much pain and having runny noses. I don't really need gloves already too unless if I'm walking for some distance or waiting for the bus.

    It was kinda hard going to the washroom. But I am only wearing jeans and a Heat Tech pants (and undies, of course), so it's still okay.
    And my place is pretty quiet. My roommates are really busy and are almost never at home. One of them who's PhD-ing didn't even come home last night. I've barely seen em too except for the other two girls who are living in the basement. I haven't been able to make any friends too. I tried to, like trying to get them to talk about things that they're doing or are passionate about, and even tried to start a small talk with them (which I don't usually do, cause I will almost never have that kind of initiative), but they don't even try to keep up with the end of the conversation, just stuff in the real direct answers and let the conversation die. But well, there's also the problem with the Chinese (I mean the real Chinese, from China, not Chinese like me) that they almost want you to talk to them in Mandarin. My accent is different from them, and I can't really mimic their accents and usually end up sounding like a Taiwanese, which they actually don't really like. And when I introduce that I'm from Malaysia, the only thing that they're interested in is how did I even know Mandarin. And they'll just leave it there.
    Haven't been able to talk to a lot of Caucasians though. Rarely ever met another Malaysian too.
    So am pretty much a lone wolf at this point, minding my own business, studying on my own, doing my own notes and whatnot. Not much different from when I was studying in Malaysia but I'll just let time do its job.

    Really feel like exploring around a little but with the winter... well, maybe some other time. In the meantime, I'm trying to adjust to be up-to-speed with my studies here. It's so much different, more difficult, and a lot of contents, and a lot of self-reading. I actually really like it though. Education in my home country is just spoon-feeding everyone, with a golden spoon.

    Oh, with regards to my voice in that video, I sound more high-pitched and sharper than I should, cause of the mic. Was only using the mic on my headphones (best I've got) so yeah.

    About dreams, some people claim that to have lucid or vivid dreams means that you're sleeping soundly, others say otherwise, and they each have their own claims. I'm not sure how it works. I've not had a lucid dream for years though. It's either an entire blur, or simply fragments.

    OH! OH! That book by Susan Cain! I've read it! I really liked that book. Probably the first person (or thing, or book) to have told me that it's okay to remain the way I am. Cause before reading the book, it's like the whole world around me is telling me that I'm in the wrong for being reserved and not liking to go out and mix with a lot of people, a lot. I'm proud to be an introvert now, cause of that book, and I don't really care if people ever criticize me anymore (unless if they have some good base). If they're just spouting lines and lines of extroverted laws that I have to follow, I'd just tell em to keep their outgoing noses to themselves. Tongue out

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    I've actually fell in an alley cause of the black ice. I really didn't see it till I pay a closer attention to it. It's not entirely invisible cause some light will get reflected and it'll look shinier than normal bitumen path. I was lucky that it wasn't on the roads.

    Kinda like the winter cause I barely sweat, but that's not really a good thing either. Am liking my new classes so far. The pace is great, compared to when I was in Malaysia.

    Regarding the server issue, did anyone suspect that it may be that some servers got perhaps DDoS? I had actually heard that there were people attempting to DDoS FM, but that was a long time ago.

    Anyways guys, so glad to be back. My laptop's fine, my phone's alright, and am keeping up with my studies... All is good in the world, for now.


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    Post by brandon_g on Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:40 pm

    Believe it or not Japo, there was 1 person who did suggest in the form of a question (It was worded more like "Do the techs or anyone know if the flooding was cause DDOS, because that sounds like something that cause such extreme flooding"), but he was the only one. The Pro staff and/or Techs have not told us anything about the causes of the 'flooding' just that it was resolved quickly by the next day.

    I do not know what caused it and will not speculate since I have no real knowledge of the forumotion server systems and how hard or easy it might be to do something malicious to them. Right now we only know that it was flooding and I don't think we (the staff, members and non pro staff folks) will ever find out for sure what it was. I am glad the issues have been resolved.

    Yeah Japo, you probably just need to get adjusted is all. Did you say you were in Toronto studying? I can't remmeber if you told us what city it was in.


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    Post by Japorized on Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:32 am

    Hmm... If there has been an unexpected surge (and an enormous one, like perhaps 10k computers are accessing your website in one go and kept refreshing on your website), I think FM will most likely know of it, cause they do monitor their traffic. It's pretty easy to launch a DDoS if you have control over thousands of zombie computers, cause you can just send one command, and these computers will visit that particular domain (which is your website) and cause a surge in traffic, so much to the point that your servers can't handle the requests and it fails. That's how a DDoS works, and it's pretty common tbh, and you can get a sense of how common it is by using some sites like the Digital Attack Map.

    As far as getting a zombie computer, all one needs to do is to think of some way of installing a certain virus to other computers. Most of the time, the user of that computer wouldn't know that the virus even exist in their computer, and, most of the time, they aren't harmful to the host computer, cause all the person (who's trying to zombify your computer) needs your computer to work to help with the DDoS.

    There are quite some reasons for people to DDoS a website or server, sometimes out of malice, and quite a number are actually for political reasons. But if FM was really DDoS-ed, I wouldn't even know why (unless if there's some user that really hates FM for some unknown reason). But it's right for the mods and admins to not spread this kind of news cause it would only cause unnecessary panic and people would start making unnecessary speculations, which, most of the time, are not true. So please don't share this information on the support forum. I'm letting you know cause, well, I trust that you know how to handle this knowledge, and it may be helpful to help you understand how websites work (and fail) a little better.




    As for my current life here, I'm almost at the point where I don't really mind the snow already, and perhaps slowly opening up to having fun with it. Cause for people like me, who's lived on the equator for their whole life, seeing snow for the first time is exhilarating, cause we've only see it on TV and the Internet, and many of us really prefer our home to be a little colder than it should be (our air conditioners are made solely as coolers, cause there's no use of a heater anywhere). But having to really live in winter made us realize that we don't really want to go outside and just wanna stay indoors cause it's just so cold out there, and so we because quite conscious of it and start to regret even liking it earlier on (these are actually feedback from my friends and what I read from other people like me). But I myself am slowly opening up to it and am a little more accepting of the winter already. But it still gets really cold, especially when there's wind (and at night!).

    I'm in Waterloo actually. About an hour away from Toronto. The city is... surprisingly small, compared to what I had in mind. But it may be because of the winter that it's just so discouraging to actually go out and explore, for now, for me. Maybe if I can get a local friend though, that would make some difference, maybe.


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    Post by VicmxD on Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:39 am

    It's good that you are adapting well there in canada, and I hope you make some friends to let loose some steam and feel accompanied XP.

    In reality when you have lucid dreams is when you are in the weakest period of the sleep phase, just when you are about to wake up, around an hour or so, there are 2 sleep phases of about 3 to 4 hours having a total of the 8 hours that society recommends to sleep, but the total depends on your age and how much rest your body needs to recover its energies and clean it of trash hormones and other chemicals in the body and brain, when you have a sounding heavy sleep is when the bulk of the cleaning is done, I think everybody dreams, but being able to recall them is an ability developed by trying to remember the dreams themselves, it's easier when you have just woke up, and it's related by the ability to make lucid dreams by yourself, the point is activating your conscious mind while you are asleep, and you can do that by sleeping while maintaining your consciousness (only real pros do it at will, I have done it rarely), or the most common to everyone is to realize that you are in a dream when you are dreaming, that way your consciousness comes into play with the unconscious and then your are not just flowing with it (like in a movie) and just reacting without too much use of the reason and decision like most of the times, at least not so willingly.

    And the book was great, to me it seems a very complete and well founded work that I could appreciate in both of my areas, sociology and psychology, it drew me in in every chapter wanting to know more, and I could relate its contents with things that I already knew and made even more sense to me in how we are today, how our modern societies are like they are today, why all that happened, it helped me to put together more pieces of the puzzle XP, I was enthralled.

    the winter well carried is beautiful, if you adapt to its difficulties, but you begin to hate the snow sooner or later I believe XP, I haven't spent enough time to hate it, but of course people do when there is lot of it for a lot of time, obstructing day to day life, even making your own home like a buried tomb.

    I'm falling asleep while writing all this, have a good week both of you, It could have been a DDoS since in those dates there were happening some of them quite frequently I believe, but I don't know why someone would try one to a little fish like forunmotion (maybe practice?), so good night/day I believe it's night for you guys too XP now we are at similar time zones more or less, I'm going into my dreams!!! (sorry for bad english since I didn't edited too much of the text since I'm quite tired and haven't wrote in english in quite the time).

    Edit: Japo, you posted ahead of me XD, again it's great you are getting a handle on all of it, getting accustomed, yep I enjoyed a lot the snow XP, but a lot of the people I know that went somewhere with winter ended up hating it XD, the cold breeze, it's refreshing as it can be problematic for your health, it's not only shivers watch out for it since it can bring an instant cold (flu) for you. I loved to be indoors in the cold like I could tell before, but my family liked to go out and explore even with that cold climate XD, I believe of course canada is a lot more colder than spain or italy, I don't know really, so maybe I don't know how a really strong winter is, but I kinda remember to have been around the -0, -10 or so °C
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    Post by Japorized on Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:01 am

    Believe it or not, I have only two people that I can at least call a friend here, which I've barely even meet em on normal days but we get along quite well when we do. It's a little out of my comfort zone cause I have to take more initiative (surprisingly?), but we'll see how long I last. I don't like putting in too much effort in meeting new friends cause I would then have to keep up with the effort which needs time, and time is even more precious to me now, and I'm someone who needs a lot of personal time.

    I've not slept well these few days, even though I tried to keep my sleep duration up to the "standard" time. It's partly cause of having to wake up early (I think, not too much of a morning person but I can wake up early if I want to, or need to), and another reason cause of my right arm. Something weird's happening. I get these pangs of pain in the middle of the night. Pretty sure I'm not sleeping on it, and being "pretty sure" does mean that I'm not fully sleeping.
    And I kinda prefer just letting the dream carry me as I sleep. It's tiring being conscious all the time, for me anyways, and it's, well, a chance to just relax and let the flow carry you. That's just me though.

    I agree that that book is a page-turner. It's a little of a little dynamite in modern society, that I think it's explosion is kind of drowned in this world that can't stop talking. But those who noticed it will see how the current world is to the introvert, and how by actually assuming that everyone should be outgoing, jolly, surround themselves with people at much as possible, and condemning those who do not follow this "norm", is actually more than just devastating for the introverts. Not that many would actually notice the psychological damage anyway.

    Oh regarding snow, they do pile up quite high here. If left uncleared, it can go about 8cm thick these days. Kinda scary. But they don't seem to bury houses that bad here. It's kinda kept in a way that it's like someone is actually keeping the snow on your rooftop, cleanly, and you can even clearly see the edges and it's flat (according to the shape of your roof). It's kinda amazing that way. But walking in snow is quite troublesome, cause you don't fully grip onto the ground (which I'm really used to), so you can't walk really fast. That's probably the only thing that bothers me most about the snow. Tongue out

    It's only week 3 and I'm kinda swamped already. It's still manageable, but I'm just swamped. Endless waves of assignments, tests and whatnot, and you're expected to read ahead, not just by what's going to be taught in the next class, but beyond that and as far as you can. Kinda taxing, but maybe cause I'm not used to it, and then there's also me trying to stay alive (first winter, having to keep groceries stocked while saving as much as I can, and whatnot). xD

    Kinda hope that FM wasn't just used for target practice for some DDoS attack Whew But it can happen, and so much confusion can be born.
    And now that you mention that, yeah, we are in time zones that are close enough now. It's 11pm as I write this here. This can probably help you guys calculate the time difference.

    I'm having a troublesome nose already, even when I was in Malaysia. It gets stuck in the middle of the night, and it's still happening here, expect a little more frequently. Am worried about nose inflammation about that. And then there's my arm (which had been operated before) hurting in the middle of the night, which makes me worried about arthritis.
    And it's kinda hard to breathe in this weather, still, especially when the wind blows, and the winds are quite strong. The temperature here sits around a low -17°C and a high 2°C recently, and that's without accounting for windchill. It hadn't went over 0°C for a few days though. And they say it's gonna get even colder.


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    Post by brandon_g on Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:34 pm

    Thanks for that really detailed explaination of what a DDoS is. If the zombified computer is supposed to help in this task, how would this work? Would it magically open a browser on its own and start going to that site refreshing or would it be silent and somehow do it in the background? If the first one, I could just imagine someone doing something on their computer, when magically it comes to life and starts going to a seemingly random website and start refreshing, all on its own and the person can't make it stop, lol. He/she would probably start freaking out and do a hard shut down or something lol.


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    Post by Japorized on Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:25 am

    It all runs in your terminal/console which you usually don't have visual access to unless if you know where to look for it. Opening the command prompt (on Windows) or terminal (Mac or Linux) won't show you the activity too, cause this is from the more primitive console. I believe that the hacking occurs at the console level (not sure of the terminology), which what the console usually does is to respond to what you do with the computer, like opening a folder by double left-clicking your mouse. The console essentially receives the input, goes into the function that it is associated with (I may not be wrong in thinking that it's something similar to an ActionListener, from Java, but I can't be sure), and executes the action, so that your folder pops open.

    So the hacker may have put in their virus into working within your console. You can actually visit websites using the console, except that you don't have the visual view of it, as in the Graphic User Interface (GUI), and you'll simply end up with a bunch of text. The hacker uses this as an advantage, so there won't be random browsers or websites popping up whenever the hacker tries to launch a DDoS attack using your computer. You will almost never notice if your computer has been zombified unless if you know how to check for it.

    And your computer won't magically come to life in the middle of the night and start joining a DDoS attack. Your computer can only be controlled whenever it's on, as in you're using it or leaving it idle while the OS is running. The hacker doesn't really care if your computer is actually on power or not, cause he would usually have more than one zombie computer, so having one zombie less doesn't really matter to him.

    There has been cases where the person who owns the zombified computer gets caught by the police and was investigated too, cause the ISP will have your data packet history and if they somehow notice the unusual amount of request that your computer is sending. Most of the time, the ISP will first block you from using their service, and then a police will come knocking on your door a few days later (I guess?). It can be quite some trouble, but I'm not sure how will the law protect the victim (as in the person who owns the zombified computer). For the hacker though, that only means one zombie computer less.


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    Post by VicmxD on Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:15 pm

    So we are retaking our hectic life back Yawn and I'm trying to accelerate to get back on track after the university's strike Studying , there weren't so much life changing events as japo had, XD, but well, here we go again.

    At least you have 2 persons that speak to you up there, and you have been keeping in touch with your friends and family in Malaysia i suppose (like with your brother), from time to time.

    Good luck with the snow and the duties XP, in that winter you surely have plenty of time for those.

    Hum, the nose, it may stop if you fully adapt to the ambient there, doing a little exercise helps me to breathe better and it relaxes my allergies, I produce less mucus XD, and going to the street, even with a contaminated air, in the street I rarely have problem with allergies, it's the closed spaces with humidity and dust that makes me go Achu! (sneezing). The arm may be the humidity too, cold with humidity is horrible for the affected bones, my grandparents in spain and italy suffered constant pain in the bones because of those, the humidity enters the body and the cold freezes your bones with it!, even I had I believe some discomfort with it. So turn on the heather! I had inconveniences with the heather, it dried up all my body, my skin is easy to dry so when I scratched it for being uncomfortable the skin already was peeling the dried skin and the itch didn't stop, also it was horrible for me that my nose dried, really uncomfortable to have those tunnels deprived of humidity.

    It's pretty interesting all that, thanks for the explanation on the process of the DDoS attack.

    So, I'm going back to life see you soon guys. I have been really erratic at answering here, with my uncomfortable schedule of classes I come back home wrecked and tired at late hours of the night so answering here is kinda tedious on those conditions XD and I have to prepare stuff for the next day, classes, read stuff, eat, homework, all that while longing for bed, so, at least now it's saturday morning so I can reply kinda decently.
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    Post by brandon_g on Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:42 pm

    That is very interesting, it seems computers are more complex then most of think :D. I must admit that it does seem pretty cool Smile.

    I am currently staying in orders due to a massive snow storm that is hitting the north eastern USA right now. Quite a crazy amount snow to be honest with you.


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    Post by Japorized on Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:35 pm

    You guys can probably guess how crazy it's been for me to not have came here for days. Man it's really hectic. I wish I can make clones to do all the stuff at once, like Naruto <img src=" longdesc="109" /> The kage bunshin is going to make things so convenient for me. There's loads to study for, there's the house to keep, and there's always the need to stand 10-20 minutes in the kitchen cooking. The last one's probably the only thing that I don't enjoy as much, as much as I like to eat. I just don't find it worthy that I spent 10-20 minutes just to make something that can be gobbled up in 5 minutes. Tongue out

    My nose is a little bit better now, though it still produces mucus when it's too cold. But that's auto-protection mechanic in our body so I don't really blame it. And I have no trouble when I'm indoors. It's only bad out there.
    Now it's my eyes. It tears up whenever the wind blows and that just makes it worse. It's like I just suddenly cried in the middle of walking xD
    Speaking of dry skin and itchiness from the heat, it happens to me a lot, back when I was in Malaysia. It's crazy hard to resist scratching yourself, and it's all over the body, which just makes it worse. Hadn't have that for some time I think, not that I would really notice cause I was already doing it very unconsciously back in Malaysia. But people associate it with it being a skin problem, cause it's true that I don't see people there scratching everywhere.

    You're welcome guys. That's about as much as I know though, from the readings that I've did when there was this big DDoS on a number of anime streaming sites (Vic will remember). Was talking with some of the techs at that time as well (on the AOST IRC, too busy to visit them now though Sad ) so they shared quite some info with me.

    It was snowing quite heavily here yesterday. It's just big snow here everyday, and my housemate was telling me that it's gonna be all white out there, all the way till March. But hey, it's turning February already. Time just zipped by real fast.
    Oh right Bran, there's been quite some news about people dying of carbon monoxide poisoning in the States, hasn't there?


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    Post by brandon_g on Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:21 pm

    Yay Infinity hub is up again. :D



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